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		<title>Speak at SMX East About Search</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[SMX East is coming up in NYC in early October. It should be a great conference with lots of great stuff about search marketing, including an whole day on doing SEO in-house, programmed by Jessica Bowman. 
I&#8217;m coordinating several sessions, and we&#8217;re nearing last call for speakers. If you&#8217;re interested in speaking at these or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/2008/east">SMX East</a> is coming up in NYC in early October. It should be a great conference with lots of great stuff about search marketing, including an whole day on doing <a href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/east/2008/in-house-day">SEO in-house</a>, programmed by Jessica Bowman. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m coordinating several sessions, and we&#8217;re nearing last call for speakers. If you&#8217;re interested in speaking at these or any other sessions, get your pitch in now! (And if you&#8217;ve already pitched for any of my sessions, you should hear something by late this week or early next.)</p>
<p><a href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/speaker-form">SMX East speaker pitch form</a></p>
<p>In particular, the sessions I&#8217;m programming are below. In particular, I&#8217;m looking for case studies, real-world implementation best practices, and tactical, actionable stuff that attendees can bring home and implement right away. OK, maybe bring to work. Unless they work from home. Or a coffee shop. Like I am right now.</p>
<p><a href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/east/2008/full_agenda2#77">CSS, AJAX, Web 2.0 &#038; SEO</a><br />
This session looks CSS, AJAX and Web 2.0 dynamic design techniques that can cause search engine indexing and ranking issues, with solutions to consider.</p>
<p><a href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/east/2008/full_agenda2#78">Enhanced Listings</a><br />
Yahoo has SearchMonkey. Google has sitelinks management. Even Microsoft is looking at ways to dress-up listings. This session looks at the move toward enhanced listings and how search marketers can tap into them.</p>
<p><a href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/east/2008/full_agenda2#81">Flash &#038; SEO</a><br />
Google is handling Flash in a new way thanks to a partnership with Adobe, and Yahoo may soon do the same. Meanwhile, there are plenty of ‘old’ techniques to make Flash sites search engine friendly. But any of these techniques still don’t mean that Flash issues are solved. More in this session.</p>
<p><a href="http://searchmarketingexpo.com/east/2008/full_agenda2#73">Unraveling URLs &#038; Demystifying Domains</a><br />
Can you find the same page on your site using different URLs? That might cause you duplicate content issues. Does your content management system put out parameters that block crawling? Own multiple domains pointing at the same site? Are you 301 redirecting them or leaving canonicalization to chance? Confused on even how to pronounce canonicalization, in addition to now being worried about it? Relax. This session looks at a variety of URL and domain name issues you should consider to increase your success with SEO.</p>
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		<title>What’s Really Black Hat Anyway?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week at SES, I sat in on the Black Hat, White Hat session. The panelists gave their definitions of &#8220;white hat&#8221; and &#8220;black hat&#8221; SEO, and then talked about particular techniques, such as paid links, and whether they thought they were OK or not. The panelists talked about shades of gray and the lack [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week at SES, I sat in on the <a href="http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2008/08/black_hat_white.html">Black Hat, White Hat session</a>. The panelists gave their definitions of &#8220;white hat&#8221; and &#8220;black hat&#8221; SEO, and then talked about particular techniques, such as paid links, and whether they thought they were OK or not. The panelists talked about shades of gray and the lack of rules and the need for experimentation.</p>
<p>I come from a background of working at a search engine, rather than from a background of being an SEO, so I may see things a bit differently than those on the panel.</p>
<p><b>White hat = no guidelines violations</b><br />
Generally speaking, I don&#8217;t see a lot of shades of gray in this discussion. The search engines have published guidelines (and while I was at Google, I spent a lot of time expanding the descriptions of <a href="http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769">those guidelines</a> to help make them clearer). Violate any of those guidelines and you risk having the site removed from the index. That&#8217;s pretty black and white. </p>
<p><b>Related discussions have more shades of gray</b><br />
I do see shades of gray in <i>different</i> discussions, such as:</p>
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<li><b>Do all the guidelines make sense in today&#8217;s technological environment?</b> For instance, are there valid reasons for cloaking that don&#8217;t manipulate search engines and deceive users, such as showing search engine bots a canonical version of a URL and different versions of that URL to users for tracking purposes? For discussions like this, there&#8217;s a reasonable debate to be had about whether search engines <i>should</i> consider different rules, but too often, I see the discussion tally up the reasons why a technique isn&#8217;t deception then conclude that it is therefore, white hat. But whether a technique &#8220;should&#8221; be OK and whether it&#8217;s white hat are two different discussions. With regard to cloaking, that&#8217;s currently against Google guidelines regardless of intent. So justified or not, it&#8217;s not white hat with the current set of guidelines.</li>
<li><b>Do techniques that violate the guidelines work?</b> Often, I see the discussion of black hat vs. white hat veer into a discussion about what techniques are most effective: which ones work for enterprise sites or affiliate sites or sites in highly competitive areas. This came up at the panel, when someone talked about how they didn&#8217;t believe that a completely white hat site in one of the three Ps (porn, pills or poker) could rank highly. Again, this is an interesting discussion, but a different one. Techniques that violate the guidelines may eventually get the site banned, regardless of their initial efficacy, so it&#8217;s important to understand the long term goal of the site before engaging in them. As the panelists noted, sites that are in it for the long term likely want the slow and steady approach.</li>
<li><b>What about techniques that violate the guidelines but are commonplace?</b> I hear this discussion integrated with the hat discussion as well, often when talking about paid links. Paid links aren&#8217;t black hat, I sometimes hear, because everyone uses them and they&#8217;re vital for ranking success. But again, whether or not a technique is commonplace is somewhat irrelevant to question people are asking when they want to know what is white hat. Paid links violate the guidelines (<a href="http://searchengineland.com/071231-101811.php">at least Google&#8217;s &#8212; the other engines aren&#8217;t quite as strict</a>), so they can&#8217;t be considered a white hat technique. A different, but valid, discussion is whether all paid links <i>should</i> be against the guidelines.</li>
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<p>While all of these discussions and more are certainly valid and useful, I feel the trouble comes in when people have these discussions <i>as the discussion</i> about what is white hat and what is black hat. When people who aren&#8217;t experienced in the intricacies of SEO look for information and they see statements like &#8220;these are white hat reasons to cloak&#8221; and &#8220;all paid links aren&#8217;t bad&#8221;, they can be led astray and think that those things adhere to search engine guidelines.</p>
<p><b>What are the guidelines?</b><br />
As for the SES panel, I respect all of the panelists and felt they all had interesting, useful things to say. But for me, the question at hand is simple to answer. Techniques that violate the guidelines aren&#8217;t white hat. They may be effective (at least for a time), commonplace, non-deceptive, or justified, but that doesn&#8217;t make them white hat. To me, white hat is anything that doesn&#8217;t put the site at risk of being removed from the search index.</p>
<p>When I was at Google, I spent a lot of time expanding the guidelines, detailing examples, and providing options of techniques that didn&#8217;t violate the guidelines. Since then, Google&#8217;s continued to expand the information and make it even more helpful. <a href="http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769">Check them out</a>, and in particular, click the links under the &#8220;quality guidelines - specific guidelines&#8221; if you want to read up on the details.</p>
<p><b>What is SEO?</b><br />
So what is white hat SEO? The panlists agreed it was about creating quality content &#8212; being the most relevant result for a desired query. I absolutely agree, but SEO is also about making sure the site can be easily crawled and indexed by search engines. From a search engine perspective, the best site in the world is unlikely to rank if the bot can&#8217;t extract any content from it. That latter part of SEO is, of course, the motivation behind <a href="http://janeandrobot.com/">Jane and Robot</a> (which is just getting started; look for more soon!).</p>
<p>You might also check out:</p>
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<li><a href="http://help.live.com/Help.aspx?market=en-US&#038;project=WL_Webmasters&#038;querytype=topic&#038;query=WL_WEBMASTERS_REF_GuidelinesforSuccessfulIndexing.htm">Live Search&#8217;s webmaster guidelines</a></li>
<li><a href="http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/search/basics/basics-18.html">Yahoo&#8217;s webmaster guidelines</a></li>
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		<title>Facebook Wants To Be Your Default Home Page</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I was logging into Facebook to check out the redesign, I noticed this little checkbox to &#8220;set Facebook as your home page&#8221;.

I don&#8217;t recall seeing that before. I am impressed that it&#8217;s not selected by default. 
Once they get all those default home pages, they just need to expand their partnership with Microsoft to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was logging into Facebook to check out the redesign, I noticed this little checkbox to &#8220;set Facebook as your home page&#8221;.</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t recall seeing that before. I am impressed that it&#8217;s not selected by default. </p>
<p>Once they get all those default home pages, they just need to expand their partnership with Microsoft to offer Live Search as part of the Facebook home page experience. Does Microsoft need Yahoo&#8217;s users if they can grab Facebook&#8217;s instead? How many people do you think will make the default home page switch?</p>
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		<title>Search-Friendly Flash?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of weeks ago, Adobe announced that it was working with Google and Yahoo! on making Flash content easier to index in search engines. Google said it was using the search-engine specific Flash player that Adobe had made available (Yahoo!&#8217;s integration is still in the works). While I think it&#8217;s great and absolutely vital [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago, <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080701-000002.php">Adobe announced that it was working with Google and Yahoo! on making Flash content easier to index in search engines</a>. Google said it was using the search-engine specific Flash player that Adobe had made available (Yahoo!&#8217;s integration is still in the works). While I think it&#8217;s great and absolutely vital that search engines continue to evolve beyond strictly text (to ensure they are providing the best possible experience for their users), I don&#8217;t think this announcement means that all the Flash content on the web will now suddenly start ranking in search results and I don&#8217;t think that Flash developers can stop thinking about search engine optimization.</p>
<p><b>How search engines work</b><br />
It all goes back to how search engines work. At least for now (even with all of the advancements in the last year around universal search), the foundations of the major search engines are based on text. The web began with primarily text-only pages and the search engine algorithms were built on that idea.  When people started searching for information, they searched with words. We&#8217;re used to asking for things in words, after all, and since words were what the web was made up of, the questions and answers matched up quite well. Search engines are a bit of a middleman (middlemachine?) between a searcher&#8217;s textual questions and a web site&#8217;s textual answers.</p>
<p><b>Searching continues to be text based</b><br />
Sure, you might imagine other types of exchanges. I might want to upload a picture of a person and ask for all the other pictures on the web of that person. Or I might want to search through the audio of a song for a particular lyric. All of those types of searches and more are coming (and some have been tried, with varying degrees of success), but at least for now, those applications are not how the three major search engines work and not how most people search. </p>
<p>Over time, search engines have experimented with different elements on pages beyond simply the text itself to better understand what those pages are about. Although since these experiments are built on a text-based foundation, the experiments have also still mostly focused on text. For instance, search engines found that the text that&#8217;s in the title may be a strong indicator of the focus on the page. The textual caption under and image is likely describing that image.</p>
<p><b>How Flash fits in with text-based search engines</b><br />
Now, consider Flash. Most Flash pages contain little text. Those that do could often just as easily display that text outside of the Flash components (which would make it easier for those on screen readers and mobile phones, for instance, to view the content). </p>
<p>With this latest innovation in crawling Flash, Google can more easily access the text in Flash, but they still can&#8217;t process it quite as well as it can HTML text because they aren&#8217;t extracting any meta data about that text. As I mentioned earlier, search engines are now storing all kinds of meta data based on the structure of the text in HTML, like if it&#8217;s in a title tag, or an H1 and so on. So Flash-based text has that disadvantage.</p>
<p><b>Provide a separate URL for each piece of Flash content</b><br />
Another consideration is how the Flash application itself is constructed. This new Flash player that Adobe is making available to Google and Yahoo! helps the search engines in that it enables them to access content it never could before. The crawlers can interact with the Flash application as a user would and crawl deeper into the application to get to text that may be four or five levels deep. On first glance, this may seem similar to search engine crawlers following links within HTML sites, but it can actually be quite different. </p>
<p>HTML pages (generally) have unique URLs for each page. Flash applications <i>can</i> be constructed that way, but can also be constructed so that as you go deeper into the application, the URL doesn&#8217;t change. This can be problematic for lots of usability reasons that have nothing to do with search. For instance, the back button in the browser doesn&#8217;t work. Users can&#8217;t easily email, Digg, or otherwise share a particular section of the Flash application easily. Bookmarking only works for the beginning of the Flash app.</p>
<p>As you might imagine, it also causes problems in search. Sure, the search engine crawlers may now be able to get to some of that content several levels in, but they have to index all of the text under a single URL. (Also note that they likely won&#8217;t index all of the application in this case; they will execute only a certain number of interactions.) </p>
<p>Say information about your latest product line is available once you choose &#8220;products&#8221; from the home page, then &#8220;new&#8221; from the products page, then &#8220;coming soon&#8221; from the new page. If the URL of the application doesn&#8217;t change for each interaction, then search engines will have to index the content from the home page, products page, new page, and coming soon page all under a single URL. When a searcher looks for your latest product line, that URL may appear in the results. But once the searcher clicks over, they aren&#8217;t brought to your coming soon page, they see your home page, and may have no idea where to go from there. If you ensure your Flash app uses a different URL for each page, then the searcher can be brought directly to the page that has the right content, which should greatly improve conversion rates and lower bounce rates.</p>
<p>But if you take the announcement that Google can now index Flash at face value, without looking deeper, you may not realize this, and think that your single-URL Flash application is now perfectly positioned for search.</p>
<p><b>Taking back the tour</b><br />
Want an example of how the statement &#8220;Google can now index Flash&#8221; isn&#8217;t the whole story?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching the Tour de France. It&#8217;s playing on the Versus network for the first time this year. I&#8217;d never heard of the Versus network before (since it seems to mostly show ultimate fighting cage matches, this may be because I&#8217;m not its target audience; not to mention that I wasn&#8217;t the target audience for the network under its previous name, OLN, as I think it mostly played shows about people fishing then), and the network is looking to capitalize on this potential new audience.</p>
<p>Versus is spending a lot of money on its Tour de France campaign &#8220;Take Back the Tour&#8221;. It has put together flashy commercials and an <a href="http://takebackthetour.com/">equally flashy website.</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanessafox/2671162069/" title="firstpage by vanessafox, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2671162069_ab058db36a.jpg" width="500" height="320" alt="firstpage" /></a></p>
<p>Versus probably would like to be found when people search for [tour de france]. The <a href="http://www.versus.com/tdf/">Tour de France page</a> on the main versus.com domain shows up in the search results, but the Take Back The Tour site that they spent so money money on? Nowhere to be found.</p>
<p>Well, they&#8217;re spending all the money on commercials and print ads, so maybe people have been searching for [<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=take+back+the+tour">take back the tour</a>] as well. The site does rank #1 for that query on both Google and Live (although it&#8217;s down at #8 on Yahoo!). For all three engines, even those who do the search because they saw an ad might not be sure if the takebackthetour.com listing is really the official site based on how the listing looks in the search results.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanessafox/2671985080/" title="results by vanessafox, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/2671985080_b89d165b66.jpg" width="500" height="131" alt="results" /></a></p>
<p>You can see that at this point, Google doesn&#8217;t see any content on the site and in fact, notes on the cached page that [take back the tour] appears only in links pointing to the page. Since it can&#8217;t extract any text, it has no way of knowing that the site is about the Tour de France.</p>
<p><b>Google still doesn&#8217;t Flash executed via JavaScript</b><br />
So. What&#8217;s the problem? Google crawls Flash now and all should be well. I see at least two problems. The first is fundamental. The Flash executes via JavaScript. Google <a href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/06/improved-flash-indexing.html">noted in their blog post</a> that: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Googlebot does not execute some types of JavaScript. So if your web page loads a Flash file via JavaScript, Google may not be aware of that Flash file, in which case it will not be indexed.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>They did update the post later to say that:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;For our July 1st launch, we didn&#8217;t enable Flash indexing for Flash files embedded via SWFObject. We&#8217;re now rolling out an update that enables support for common JavaScript techniques for embedding Flash, including SWFObject and SWFObject2.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Will this update help the Take Back the Tour site? Maybe not.</p>
<p><b>Can Google find any words to index?</b><br />
Another big obstacle to the crawl of this site is that even if Google could get to the Flash, it would find few words to index. Nearly all of the text on the site is contained in images. The first thing you see when you go to the site is lots of words, but the only ones that seem to be text, rather than part of the image, are in the link &#8220;join the movement&#8221;. </p>
<p>So, once Google can access the Flash, it will be able to crawl and index those words. This design is a theme throughout the site. Links like &#8220;back&#8221; are text. Nearly everything else is in images.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s pretend for a moment that they changed the Flash file so that the text wasn&#8217;t contained in images (and that the JavaScript problem didn&#8217;t exist). Would this help indexing? Yes and no.</p>
<p><b>No separate URLs can lead to a poor experience for searchers</b><br />
Each time you click a link in the Flash file, you are taken to another page, but the URL doesn&#8217;t change. It stays at takebackthetour.com no matter how you navigate. That means that any text Google does pick up will be indexed under that one URL. </p>
<p>By clicking about three levels deep, I can find TV spots about the tour. If the site designers added some text about those TV spots, using the language of their customers, then searchers looking for [tour de france video] or something similar might see the takebackthetour.com site come up in their search results. But when they clicked through to the site, they wouldn&#8217;t see the TV spots. They would see the Flash splash page. And they would have to figure out how to navigate through the site to find the video section. Chances are that many searchers would scan the initial page that came up, not see what they were looking for and go back to the search results to find another site.</p>
<p><b>Little change for viral success</b><br />
This makes for a poor user experience from search, but consider also that the creators of this campaign obviously are hoping it goes viral. If you want a site to go viral, you have to make it easily shareable. Sure, people may love the rant section or the video section or the contest, but no URL of any of these sections exists for those people to email, Digg, Twitter, Stumble, or otherwise share. A viral campaign that requires every person who shares the content to say, &#8220;go to this URL, then click &#8216;join the movement&#8217;, then click &#8216;how will you take back the tour&#8217; is over before it even begins.</p>
<p>And what about accessibility? And those on the go? I watched the first night of the tour at a friend&#8217;s house. What if I had seen the commercial, wanted to check it out, and pulled up the site on my Windows Mobile Smartphone? I would have had this awesome experience:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanessafox/2671984618/" title="nojavascript by vanessafox, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/2671984618_0b1586f36d.jpg" width="500" height="75" alt="nojavascript" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not even an accurate error message, since the first problem is that I don&#8217;t have JavaScript support.</p>
<p><b>Be smart about Flash</b><br />
Clearly, a few problems still exist with Flash websites. My view is this:</p>
<ul>
<li>It&#8217;s important for web technology providers to think about things like accessibility and search engine optimization or those who implement those technologies will turn to other solutions. To this end, Adobe should be commended for continuing to evolve their offerings to better serve the needs of their users.</li>
<li>Search engines have to continue to evolve beyond HTML as their primary goal is to provide the best possible results for searchers. They can&#8217;t rely on site owners across the web understanding what technologies are better for search. Google is clearly working on &#8220;organizing all the world&#8217;s information&#8221;, not just all the information well optimized for search engines, and this latest Flash development is an important part of that evolution.</li>
<li>If you operate a business online, search is an important acquisition channel. Don&#8217;t leave such an important avenue for gaining new customers in the hands of others. Ensure that you are making it as easy as possible for search engines to find your content.</li>
<li>Flash may very well be a great technology for your site, but implement it wisely.</li>
</ul>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A (Google official) blog post about scraped content on a scraper site. [Site is here (www.arsgeek.org/2008/06/11/duplicate-content-due-to-scrapers/), but link removed as the site may now contain malware.]  
But the original does rank first. 
Although not in blog search. 
(But that appears to be because the post isn&#8217;t indexed in blogsearch at all. Because rivva.de is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A (Google official) blog post about scraped content on a scraper site. [Site is here (www.arsgeek.org/2008/06/11/duplicate-content-due-to-scrapers/), but link removed as the site may now contain malware.]  </p>
<p>But <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=duplicate+content+due+to+scrapers">the original</a> does rank first. </p>
<p>Although <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=duplicate+content+due+to+scrapers">not in blog search</a>. </p>
<p>(But that appears to be because the post isn&#8217;t indexed in blogsearch at all. <a href="http://rivva.de/about/http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/06/duplicate-content-due-to-scrapers.html">Because rivva.de</a> is <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;q=http%3A%2F%2Fgooglewebmastercentral.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F06%2Fduplicate-content-due-to-scrapers.html+site%3Agooglewebmastercentral.blogspot.com&#038;btnG=Search+Blogs">listed in its place</a>?</p>
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		<title>It Only Seems Like I’m Quiet</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been a busy month. I spoke at some conferences, organized some local meetups, put together and moderated a day for developers about search, and wrote some stuff. I have a bunch of stuff coming up for this blog, but in the meantime, I thought I&#8217;d post a quick recap here of everything else.
emetrics
I was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a busy month. I spoke at some conferences, organized some local meetups, put together and moderated a day for developers about search, and wrote some stuff. I have a bunch of stuff coming up for this blog, but in the meantime, I thought I&#8217;d post a quick recap here of everything else.</p>
<p><b>emetrics</b><br />
I was on a panel with <a href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/">Avinash Kaushik</a>, which was great fun. I&#8217;m sure you already are subscribed to his RSS feed, and if not, what are you waiting for? Mel over at Microsoft adCenter <a href="http://www.melcarson.com/emetrics-2008-quotes-of-day-3.html">quoted me a bit loosely from the session.</a> I think I was replying to someone who was thinking they could perhaps buy a site, replace all the content with completely different stuff, and keep the credit for all the older site&#8217;s PageRank and incoming links. But it doesn&#8217;t really make sense that if msnbc.com had a bunch of incoming links for being a great news site and was sold to someone who turend it into a site about cute cats that all those old news links would help the new cat site.</p>
<p><b>advance08</b><br />
I&#8217;m working on a big write up of Bill Gate&#8217;s talk at Microsoft&#8217;s advertising summit and my tour of their house of the future (<a href="http://www.scottrobertsweb.com/Classic-Tex-Avery-Cartoons-That-Predicted-the-Future.php">just like they&#8217;d show during the Tom and Jerry cartoons</a>!), and hopefully will have it out in the next few days.</p>
<p><b>Convergence Vancouver</b><br />
I gave a talk on universal search and discussed how to use universal search as a new opportunity to connect with customers. What is your audience most interested in? You don&#8217;t want to create a bunch of videos and images just to try to blanket the results page &#8212; think about what will provide real value to your audience and focus on building universal results that will bring you more qualified traffic and return visitors. I also talked about how the changes to the search results page mean that you may need to look at new metrics. Ranking position and page views alone can&#8217;t tell the whole story.</p>
<p><b>SMX Developer Day</b><br />
I had a great time yesterday moderating the developer track at SMX. The speakers were great and I particularly enjoyed hearing the case studies and seeing code samples. Look for some of that soon on <a href="http://janeandrobot.com/">Jane and Robot</a>. Thanks to everyone who participated (by speaking or attending).</p>
<p><b>Jane and Robot Web Development and Search Meetups</b><br />
Speaking of Jane and Robot, we held two meetups in Seattle in May. They were great fun so we&#8217;re going to keep doing them around once a month. We&#8217;re going to focus on a particular topic each time and leave lots of time for questions, site reviews, and chatting. If you&#8217;re a developer in the Seattle area and there&#8217;s a particular topic you&#8217;d like to hear about, let me know! Looks like the next one will likely be June 25th on the east side, so stay tuned for details.</p>
<p><b>Writing</b><br />
I&#8217;ve managed to find some time to write a few things lately. Earlier tonight, I gave my thoughts on the <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080606-010700.php">Yahoo! SearchMonkey searcher experience</a>. Late last week, I wrote about how the <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080530-195700.php">search experience is changing</a> and how marketers can use that to their advance. I also wrote about <a href="http://janeandrobot.com/post/Effectively-Using-Images.aspx">implementing images</a> on Jane and Robot. We&#8217;ve got another article that will likely go up sometime tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>What Cool Stuff Is LinkedIn Launching?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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Apparently, it&#8217;s magical.
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<p>Apparently, it&#8217;s magical.</p>
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		<title>Ranking As The Original Source For Content You Syndicate</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you write content on your site, whether it&#8217;s a blog post, product description, or an article, you likely want to rank well for it. I&#8217;m often asked how best to ensure this when you&#8217;re also syndicating that content.
Why Syndicate?
There are good reasons for syndicating content. Syndication can bring traffic, exposure, and sales.
If you&#8217;re a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you write content on your site, whether it&#8217;s a blog post, product description, or an article, you likely want to rank well for it. I&#8217;m often asked how best to ensure this when you&#8217;re also syndicating that content.</p>
<p><b>Why Syndicate?</b><br />
There are good reasons for syndicating content. Syndication can bring traffic, exposure, and sales.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a blogger, you might syndicate your posts to get wider distribution. If your posts are seen by a bigger audience, you might gain some of those readers for yourself. If your site provides authoritative resources, you might have a partnership with other sites that want to include that content. And if you sell products, you might provide affiliates with content feeds, which in turn brings in additional revenue.</p>
<p><b>But What Should Rank?</b><br />
But from a search engine perspective, syndication can cause a bit of a conundrum. If what you wrote is a relevant result for a search, the search engine wants to show it to the searcher. But not show it twice (or three times, or maybe even a thousand times in the case of an affiliate feed). And that makes sense. If you&#8217;re searching for something, you don&#8217;t want multiple results that all lead to the same content even if that content is on different sites.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s a search engine to do? </p>
<p>Search engines generally identify duplicate results and filter out all but one. They have lots of ways to decide which version to show. They try to figure out which one is the &#8220;original&#8221; by looking at things like which version was published first and which has the most links pointing to it.</p>
<p>Your content may appear on other sites at times other than when you syndicated it (such as when your RSS feed has been scraped), and search engines try to account for that too by looking at things like which site is more authoritative.</p>
<p><b>What If Search Engines Get It Wrong?</b><br />
Generally, search engine algorithms work pretty well and your original version shows up. However, the system isn&#8217;t perfect. Michael Gray recently noted that <a href="http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/when-google-gets-duplicate-content-wrong/">sometimes Google gets it wrong</a> and shows the version from a more authoritative site, even when that is not the original version. He suggested some ways for making sure that the original version shows up first. And he linked to the Search Illustrated column on Search Engine Land that <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080513-080033.php">shows a great illustration</a> of how search engines determine the version to show.</p>
<p><b>How Can You Make Sure Your Site Ranks First?</b><br />
So what do I suggest you do if you&#8217;re syndicating content but want your original version to rank about the syndicated ones?</p>
<ul>
<li>Create a different version of the content to syndicate than what you write for your own site. This method works best for things like product affiliate feeds. I don&#8217;t think it works as well for things like blog posts or other types of articles. Instead, you could do something like write a high level summary article for syndication and a blog post with details about that topic for your own site.</li>
<li>Always include absolute links back to your own site in the body of the article. This is particularly helpful when your content is scraped.</li>
<li>Ask your syndication partners to block their version of your article (via robots.txt or a robots meta tag). Whenever I suggest this, people laugh and tell me that the sites they are syndicating to would never agree to this as they want the content so they can rank for it. I can completely understand this. But as someone who&#8217;s providing your content for syndication, you should then just realize you&#8217;re in a competition with your syndication partners for ranking and it&#8217;s quite possible they can outrank you. If you are able to, put together a syndication agreement that states they get your content as a benefit for their readers, not as a way to acquire search traffic for that content, then you can keep control of ranking for what you&#8217;ve written and they can provide a benefit to their audience.</li>
</ul>
<p><b>But Make Sure Duplication Is the Issue</b><br />
In Michael&#8217;s case, he explained that he has an agreement with <a href="http://www.webpronews.com">Web Pro News</a> that enables them to syndicate any blog post of his that they&#8217;d like for their own site. And in the case he describes, the article on the Web Pro News site is ranking above the version on his blog. He speculates that&#8217;s because Web Pro News is a more authoritative site. I am sure that what he describes can happen (particularly since in this case, his Web Pro News version of the article doesn&#8217;t have a link back to his original article; at the very least, he should negotiate an introductory paragraph at the beginning of his syndicated posts that explain where the original is located with a link to it, not only for search engine ranking purposes, but to give readers better content), but in his particular case, I&#8217;m not so sure that&#8217;s the cause. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find his <a href="http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/making-google-reader-more-social/">original post</a> <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolf-howl.com%2Fgoogle%2Fmaking-google-reader-more-social">indexed at all</a>. Obviously, if a page isn&#8217;t indexed, it has no chance of ranking. I&#8217;m not sure why that particular page isn&#8217;t indexed. It&#8217;s not blocked with robots.txt or a robots meta tag. It sounds like <i>he</i> can see it indexed, so maybe I&#8217;m hitting a different data center. If that&#8217;s the case, I don&#8217;t know if the one I&#8217;m hitting was refreshed more recently than the one he&#8217;s hitting or if his is.</p>
<p><b>Don&#8217;t Give Away Your Control</b><br />
His point that syndicating content can be tricky if you want to rank for that content remains, even if the root cause of his particular case is a bit hazy. If search is not yet a large acquisition channel for your site, then you may not mind if another site ranks for your material as you may get more traffic from the syndicated site (so make sure you at least have a link back to your site!). But as you site starts to stand on its own and search traffic starts growing, you will want to have more control. So think of your longer term strategy when you negotiate syndication partnerships and don&#8217;t give up all of the control of the content you work so hard to create to others.</p>
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		<title>Powerset’s New “Factz” From Wikipedia</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Powerset, the natural language search engine that&#8217;s been under wraps for a while, has just launched a test version of their product that searches Wikipedia articles. Danny Sullivan describes how Powerset&#8217;s search differs from a standard search over at Search Engine Land.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.powerset.com/">Powerset</a>, the natural language search engine that&#8217;s been under wraps for a while, has just launched a test version of their product that searches Wikipedia articles. Danny Sullivan <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080512-000100.php">describes how Powerset&#8217;s search differs from a standard search</a> over at Search Engine Land.</p>
<p>Key to the difference is Powerset&#8217;s ability to glean meaning from the sentences. While other search engines primarily look for instances of words on pages, Powerset understands those words. Or something like that. The Search Engine Land article illustrates the concept with a search for Henry VIII. The Powerset results include &#8220;factz&#8221; based on verbs, such as he &#8220;granted&#8221; land and &#8220;married&#8221; a bunch of times. </p>
<p>I was suspicious of the &#8220;z&#8221;.</p>
<p>But, I figured I&#8217;d try it out myself using the tried and true ego search method. If I there&#8217;s one search result for which we should be able to judge accuracy, it should be the one about ourself. (Keeping in mind that the current version of my Wikipedia entry is woefully out of date and has been flagged for depressing grammar issues.) So what does <a href="http://www.powerset.com/explore/pset?q=vanessa+fox&#038;submit.x=0&#038;submit.y=0">Powerset think that Wikipedia has said</a> about me?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanessafox/2484894469/" title="Powerset Factz by vanessafox, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2058/2484894469_861be0ea87_o.png" width="458" height="154" alt="Powerset Factz" /></a></p>
<p>That I have declared bankruptcy and received email.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2652797.ece">Sigh</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lately, I&#8217;ve noticed that Seattle doesn&#8217;t seem to have regular networking events about search. And I&#8217;ve also noticed that not a lot of information exists about SEO for developers. And Seattle has lots of developers who are building web applications and could benefit from those apps being found through search.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lately, I&#8217;ve noticed that Seattle doesn&#8217;t seem to have regular networking events about search. And I&#8217;ve also noticed that not a lot of information exists about SEO for developers. And Seattle has lots of developers who are building web applications and could benefit from those apps being found through search.</p>
<p>I figured hey, why not start organizing some events for developers about search! So, I did.</p>
<p>Ideally, I&#8217;d like to hold these once a month, and bring together experts to review sites from the audience. And have lots of food and drinks. In our inaugural month, we&#8217;re holding two events!</p>
<p><b>Tuesday, May 13th at 6pm<br />
Solo Bar, 200 Roy Street, Seattle</b><br />
This event is sponsored by Microsoft, and they&#8217;ll be providing lots of swag in addition to food and drinks. We&#8217;ll chat a bit about search, look at a few sites, then hang out and chat. You can <a href="http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/594441/">sign up at Upcoming</a>.</p>
<p><b>Thursday, May 29th at 6pm<br />
Google Seattle office, 651 N 34th St. Seattle</b><br />
This event is sponsored by Google, and we&#8217;ll look at some diagnostic issues sites may encounter while we snack and drink. You can <a href="http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/622645">sign up for this event at Upcoming</a> as well.</p>
<p><b>Wednesday, June 4th<br />
Bell Harbor Convention Center, Seattle</b><br />
Of course, if you&#8217;re looking for more in-depth information about how to build crawable sites, you can check out <a href="http://searchdeveloperday.com">Developer Day at SMX Advanced on June 4th</a>. We&#8217;ve got speakers from the major search engines to talk about the infrastructure details of web applications from a search perspective, <a href="http://technoracle.blogspot.com/">Duane Nickull</a> from Adobe to talk about making Adobe technologies search friendly, and web developers to give real-life examples and case studies. We&#8217;ll be ending the day with an expert panel to review your site!</p>
<p><b>Brought To You By Jane and Robot</b><br />
The free networking events are the first activities organized by a new project I&#8217;m working on with <a href="http://nathanbuggia.com/">Nathan Buggia</a> called <a href="http://janeandrobot.com/">Jane and Robot</a>. The idea behind Jane and Robot is to provide definitive content to developers about building web applications for both users and searchers. We&#8217;re focusing on the developer audience, rather than search marketers, so we&#8217;ll talk more about implementing 301 redirects in PHP than we will about optimizing content for particular keywords. The site is in &#8220;soft launch&#8221; mode now, but watch as we evolve it.</p>
<p>So far, we&#8217;ve got slides up from the <a href="http://janeandrobot.com/post/Search-Friendly-Design-Patterns-For-Web-Developers.aspx">SEO for Developers workshop</a> we did at Web 2.0 Expo a few weeks ago (along with diagnostic checklists), as well as an <a href="http://janeandrobot.com/page/Events.aspx">events page</a> where you can watch for more events like the ones we&#8217;re putting together in May.</p>
<p>And check out our first article, on <a href="http://janeandrobot.com/post/canonical-url-canonicalization-domain.aspx">domain canonicalization</a>.</p>
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